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ALIGNMENT

Postby fiat218 on Fri Jun 22, 2012 6:11 am

72 124

front , casters left 2.1
right 2.6

CAMBER left . -0.6
right . -1.0

TOE left 0.10
right 0.20
total 0.20



REAR
chamber left . - 0.3
right - 0.4
TOE left -.05
right -0.40
total -0.45



thrust angle -0.45


IS THIS BAD OR GOOD
Jim
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1972 124 spider ( sold
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Re: ALIGNMENT

Postby v6spider on Sat Jun 30, 2012 8:13 pm

real close... is that laden or unladen?... the fiat service manual calls for the car to have the average weight of 2 persons with an additional 130 lbs to act as luggage weight!

Front suspension settings my FIAT Factory Service Manual:
total toe= .12" ± .039"
camber -.5° ± .5°
caster + 3.5° ± .5° (I think +2.5° is more reasonable here... less tire scrub)

Rear Suspension is nonadjustable...

Cheers!
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Re: ALIGNMENT

Postby fiat218 on Sat Jun 30, 2012 8:34 pm

v6spider wrote:real close... is that laden or unladen?... the fiat service manual calls for the car to have the average weight of 2 persons with an additional 130 lbs to act as luggage weight!

Front suspension settings my FIAT Factory Service Manual:
total toe= .12" ± .039"
camber -.5° ± .5°
caster + 3.5° ± .5° (I think +2.5° is more reasonable here... less tire scrub)

Rear Suspension is nonadjustable...

Cheers!
Rob

No weight .so is that unladen
Jim
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1974 Alfa Romeo (sold
1972 124 spider ( sold
1980 124 2000 carb
1979 124 2.0 dual 4o's
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Re: ALIGNMENT

Postby v6spider on Thu Jul 05, 2012 9:00 pm

Yes, makes a big difference on how the alignment turns out.
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Re: ALIGNMENT

Postby fiat218 on Thu Jul 05, 2012 9:13 pm

My 80 is going in for a alignment tomorrow, what should it be ,
Jim
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1972 124 spider ( sold
1980 124 2000 carb
1979 124 2.0 dual 4o's
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Re: ALIGNMENT

Postby v6spider on Fri Jul 06, 2012 7:39 pm

fiat218 wrote:My 80 is going in for a alignment tomorrow, what should it be ,


Just as it appears in my first post from the FIAT Service Manual...
Good Luck! :)
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Re: ALIGNMENT

Postby fiat218 on Fri Jul 06, 2012 9:57 pm

v6spider wrote:
fiat218 wrote:My 80 is going in for a alignment tomorrow, what should it be ,


Just as it appears in my first post from the FIAT Service Manual...
Good Luck! :)

that what i thought, got it, thanks , i will assume they that all the years of fiats have close to the same alignment numbers
Jim
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1972 124 spider ( sold
1980 124 2000 carb
1979 124 2.0 dual 4o's
1971 124 1608 Carb
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Re: ALIGNMENT

Postby opus10583 on Sat Jul 07, 2012 5:32 am

Hi,

I had a bit of negative camber dialed in last time and will go for more next, looking for just about what you've got there, more like -.8L, -1R.

Took a lot of plow out of the old horse.

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Re: ALIGNMENT

Postby opus10583 on Sat Jul 07, 2012 5:46 am

fiat218 wrote:that what i thought, got it, thanks , i will assume they that all the years of fiats have close to the same alignment numbers


Hi,

There's an unladen spec Service Letter for 1980-1981, SL-000-49, 6-11-81, that doesn't differ much.

Same values for Caster and Toe, +.5deg -0/+.5 for camber.

PM me your email and I'll send you the PDF.

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Re: ALIGNMENT

Postby fiat218 on Sat Jul 07, 2012 6:15 am

opus10583 wrote:
fiat218 wrote:that what i thought, got it, thanks , i will assume they that all the years of fiats have close to the same alignment numbers


Hi,

There's an unladen spec Service Letter for 1980-1981, SL-000-49, 6-11-81, that doesn't differ much.

Same values for Caster and Toe, +.5deg -0/+.5 for camber.

PM me your email and I'll send you the PDF.

Thanks,
Mark

Email,jam@gra.midco.net
Thanks
Jim
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1974 Alfa Romeo (sold
1972 124 spider ( sold
1980 124 2000 carb
1979 124 2.0 dual 4o's
1971 124 1608 Carb
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Re: ALIGNMENT

Postby blurple124 on Wed Aug 29, 2012 9:53 am

Here's a question:

Can the alignment be completed accurately without the swaybar on?

It is giving me some trouble and I want to get the car aligned today.
Charlie
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Re: ALIGNMENT

Postby majicwrench on Wed Aug 29, 2012 11:18 am

Yes
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Re: ALIGNMENT

Postby blurple124 on Wed Aug 29, 2012 11:22 am

majicwrench wrote:Yes



Your confidence brings me great relief! :lol: :lol:
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Re: ALIGNMENT

Postby Coolbreeze on Sat Mar 16, 2013 11:44 pm

When I got my 1980 Fiat Spider in 2003, I had a local alignment specialty shop go through the front suspension and align it. Apparently, they did not add weight to the car.

Last year, it went on a couple road trips (1,600+miles and <400 miles). When I put it away for the winter, I noticed the inside tread of the front tires had worn completely away. There was a ~1" band of bright steel belt showing on each tire.

When I replace the tires and have it aligned this spring, I shall put ~500-650 pounds of weight in it. It is aggravating to have to do that each time the alignment is checked, but I guess that is the price of having such a nice little car, eh?
George Tinkham
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Re: ALIGNMENT

Postby fiat218 on Sun Mar 17, 2013 5:23 am

Was no weights added she I got mine done
Jim
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1974 Alfa Romeo (sold
1972 124 spider ( sold
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1979 124 2.0 dual 4o's
1971 124 1608 Carb
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